I am fairly sure that Cam wouldnt have chosen the Panthers had he had the opportunity. How some of you idiots turned this into a race/slavery issue is beyond me. he should be allowed to get a BUST tattoo on his forehead. You meant isnt in the last sentence, phaktor. updated March 23, 2022, 7:35 am McDonalds can tell me pretty much the same thing. Gareth Bale follows the footsteps of his teammate Cristiano Ronaldo and refuses to wear any tattoos. When has it ever been cool to make up rules as we go? He is one of the few footballers without tattoos. What flies in NY or even the ATL may not work in the Charlotte market. There is a difference between this is our policy and, do you have any tattos? Besides, every other corporation has a dress code of some kind, it isnt like he would not have faced this perhaps in the work place elsewhere. A player on a team is a product you market with a certain image it wishes to promote and portrayand you want the face of it to be as clean as a whistle. He doesnt care about Shockeys appearance b/c Shockey isnt on sportscenter on a daily basis wearing a panthers jersey. Being drafted by a team does not give Cam his only option look at Eli Manning he was not originally drafted by the Giants. Paul Pogba. Jerry, do you care more about winning football games or playing house? Where is Allen Iverson when you need him? I have no opinion about whether players should have tattoos or not. Oh my God! Chest Football Tattoos 6. If he is quoted correctly there was no ultimatim, so there should be no issue. I have to side with Richardson on this one. It cant be a case-by-case issue (even though that seems to be the leagues M.O.). Maybe that makes him unattractive to media but he is the best!. If Cam doesnt like it he can work somewhere else, right? Allen Iverson crapped on all of the hard work of Jordan, Bird and Magic. This Baltimore Ravens fan is chronicling his team's 2021 season in a permanent way -- tattoos for every win. My boss wont let me have visible tats or piercings (I work for a bank, where I am a member of senior management). In an era where football players flaunt their expensive possessions, Kante opted for a humble life and refuses to show off things. Why all the indignation because the owner wants the face of his franchise to be Wheaties cereal cover material? The society is beginning to infiltrate the entertainment that is conducive to a family visit to the stadium. Is that fair? Kentucky's Republican governor has appointed former NFL player Derrick Ramsey as secretary of the Education and Workforce Development . Whats worse than Richardsons comments some of the idiotic defenses of it in this list of posts. Those who say Richardson can run his business as he sees fit, that theyve had jobs that forbid tattoos, etc. This is no different than someone going to work for a store that required a certain presentation.thats what the owner wants.his team.if Newton doesnt like it, he doesnt have to play! Gareth Bale, however, admits to giving his dad a shock by once wearing magnetic earrings for a family dinner back home in Cardiff. If Cam newton goes out and does get them, and his contract gets termed, welcome to the real world. If it does become an issue he can always request a trade to the Raiders or Bengals. Thats just fact. I dont care what why he tries to spin it, those comments were clearly racist.. So I guess hed pass on Tom Brady because his hair is too long? Come to think of it, Ive seen far more whites with tattoos and piercings falling off their bodies than I have blacks. I thought, Oh my God! My mate was in and he felt proper awkward.. Seriously though, were talking about grown men who have families of their own yet Richardson wants to treat them like children. Terrelle Pryor. No matter how famous you are, somethings are prohibited in the Bale household and that includes tattoos. The NBA says the players must wear normal clothes before and after games. Fans may be the lifeblood of the NFL, but theyre going to be there regardless. Russell Westbrook 10. If your view is so clouded and cant see thru it, I have no need for your job or your friendship. In the end it is Cams decision how idiotic he wants to make himself look. Its that simple. No surprises. If Cam chooses to do something contrary to the owners wishes then Richardson will no doubt calculate it when decided to resign him or not. Someone made a decent point about piercings, though. However, Richardson definitely has control issues, so Newton would be smart not to make this an issue. Best comment of the day. And the 29-year-old has an equally impressive tattoo collection to match his amazing hands and electric speed. Its his team so he can do so. 1. Operation Sports Forums > Football > Madden NFL Football > Madden Will work with any roster or draft class but doesn't have tattoos for any player without face scan. It sounds to me like Jerry was asking him to keep it the way he has. In 2014, tattoos returned with "Madden NFL 15" for just one player: Colin Kaepernick. This is funny. It wont happen if he has alot of tatoos or piercings. Jerry Richardson is an A$$. Sadio Mane loves playing football and only football. I think Jerry Richardson is a boorish, stubborn, old man who was the driving reason/unreason behind the lockout. On the other hand Im a little disapointed in Cam. Switch to the dark mode that's kinder on your eyes at night time. Al Davis??? The problem I have with this is that Newton is probably the only player on the panthers that has to abide by these rules. (and by the way richardson is right, a mother or father will have a lot tougher time convincing their kids to NOT get tattoos if the local sports hero is covered in them. Its one thing to ask fans to spend a thousand bucks on season tickets; its another thing entirely to convince a corporation to spend a quarter-million dollars on a luxury box for one season, or millions of dollars for high-profile advertising space. - There just arent that many supremely gifted athletes like Vick out there that can spend virtually no extra time on being a great QB. NFL players show off 2022 'My Cause, My Cleats' footwear. Thanks for clearing that up, Jerry! People always look way too deep into things. And such is life! You must be logged in to leave a comment. If Im getting paid millions of dollars to be a high profile leader in a company and represent that company publicly? Those players currently in the league with visible tattoos will be given the option to cover them up before games, practices and press conferences. Richardson is just helping Cam be an entertainer and an icon.. to middle aged white people, just like himself. WebDerek, or Derek Arthur Paggao-Ramsay, was born in Enfield, England on December 7, 1976 to British father Derek Ramsay Sr. See Derek Ramsay full list of movies and tv shows from their career. The notion that teams would try to make players into non-threatening billboards seems more than a little heavy-handed, even if its done in the name of growing the pie to the benefit of teams and players alike. While Cam is not a front office guy he is the CEO on the field. Ike Diogu 7. Tattoos and piercings are a little different, if theyre covered (or removed), when in uniform, I dont think they shouldnt be an issue. As the face of the organization for (presumably, if everything goes well) the next 10+ years, if not for life, you want to roll out a conservative image. Itd be racist if he said it to all black players which he didnt. Then Richardson would have to risk cutting talent (Im not a Cam fan), taking a PR hit and letting Cam take his talents to another team. He is one of a few footballers without tattoos. A man child would go get tatoos despite what the guy said. Translation: Dont want to scare white people. No. Jason Thompson 9. But anyway, he is a classy player but we wouldnt be surprised to see him in a tattoo shop. It is really a little on the stupid side. Jerry Richardson has every right to ask that a player not have tats or piercings. Kudos to Cam for being well dressed and respectable to a potential owner. Jerry owns the team and can ask his player (s) to have no tattoos. Tattoos and piercings say exactly that. But I do not like that this subconcious thought of Cam doing these things even seeped into Richardsons brain. Richardson is entitled to tell Newton to do anything he wants. It is an employee relationship he seeks to re-establish, and the employees should look presentable to the public. Jerry Richardson is becoming the East Coast Al Davis Well give you the last word on this one. I dont have tattoos or any piercings, and I would like to keep it that way. Who are their critics to say otherwise, nobody? Cast a vote below. That being said if Newton is going to be the face of the franchise the Panthers have the right to tell him the image they want him to portray. They want the money too. and no rap music. I bet 90% of people work somewhere that has some type of dress code, either cover tatoos, keep your hair neat. it makes little sense why Richardson is saying no tattoos or piercings to one guy, but not to others, but oh well. Unless Gabbert comes out and says he was told the same thing by Richardson in regards to his appearance, I have a problem with it. But I cant have BOTH at this stage in my career. The easy solution is to remove non-visible piercings when you put on the uniform. Also, I doubt paying customers will care about any of that assuming TDs are being put on the board. Yeah, I think owners have every right to decide whats important to them in building their brand, including whether their most marketable player has tattoos. On the other hand, if it doesnt interfere with your job function, its not in the bosss interest to lose talented employees because of the personal choices they make. I normally dont get into issues like this and have no hint of racist blood in my body (heck, my wife is white lol).The problem I have with this article is that I am sure the same questions werent asked about Gabbert by Richardson. Players have to cover tattoos and be well groomed. If you show up for an interview looking like a hood you might not get hired. There are laws against being singled out like that. The players in the 2013 NFL Draft Class have no shortage of impressive tattoos. However, there is a middle ground..no visible tattoos. To all the posters that have said some variaton of if he doesnt like it, work somewhere else or I own a business and my employees do as they are told the guy was drafted. I have no visible tats and no piercingsbecause its BAD FOR BUSINESS!!! Nikola Jokic. Just for the record, most old people prefer young people to not have any piercings, tattoos, or ridiculous hair. And as a subscriber to that corporate mindset, Jerry Richardson knows this all too well. Obviously there are exceptions to this idea such as Mike Vick but even Vick acknowledged that before his stint in the clink he didnt spend near enough time studying. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Switch to the light mode that's kinder on your eyes at day time. uncwseahawks25 says: Aug 24, 2011 8:57 AM. Do NFL players have to cover their tattoos? You have to love the way that Americans are being conditioned; dont let Government tell you anything, but do everything that your boss tells you. Not to be superstitious but a tattoo would definitely mess up the team mojo if he got one now, right? Of course, if Richardson keeps writing checks like he has these past few months, Im sure those offended players could get over it. Im not sure why NFL players should be any different. Does anyone actually think if Newton actually got a tattoo(s) or piercing(s), Richardson would actually fire or discipline Newton? Most companies have an expectation that their leaders present themselves in a certain way. I find nothing as silly as when people try to compare playing in the NFL to a regular job. WebFrom a big, beefy offensive lineman having Mamas Boy tatted on his massive biceps to Jeremy Shockeys nod to the great American bald eagle, the league is littered with tattoos that are questionable at best. Julius, you may be the best DE in the league but I dont want my best player to have tattoos, so GTFO. Whether he wanted to get a tattoo or not he should have stood his ground and said respectfully sir, I dont have any tattoos or piercings, but I alone will decide if I do or I dont. Its not like this is new. I think theyre stupid looking, but thats just me. So u really want to believe that a QB spends every waking moment studying game films? As an owner of a business, I can dictate how I want my business to be presented to the buying public. In the real world one is not restricted to one team or look for a new line of unemployment. I commend Richardson for saying what is on his mind and being upfront with Cam Newton. In a recent interview on "The Charlie Rose Show", Jerry Richardson recounted a conversation he had with Cam Newton on April 4 in which he asked Newton if he had any tattoos or piercings. LeBron is covered in ink and he seems like an all around decent person (The Decision aside). Richardson owns the team so he can ask whatever he wants. If Newton doesnt like it, get them and let Richardson trade him for it. tats are so common if he held the rest of the team to that rule he would have a lot of roster spots to fill . Richardson is an idiot. Comparing this to typical workplaces LOL!!! Probably not, but has anybody noticed their piercings or tats? Its outrageous and racist and pretty damn normal. They asked him before the draft if he could be that public face and he agreed. The only issue is: a) Whether the team is willing to enforce the code to everyone fairly. This was a PRE-DRAFT interview. Better keep him away from LameBron James then. Why does a Man feel the need to wear an earring anyway?? Be sure to also read best tattoo ideas and designs for football lovers. most companies will take the angle that you can get em if you want, just dont show em at work, and i think thats fair. Personally, I hate tattoos. (Peppers) And I think by all accounts hes a model citizen but thats just me. but to be able to dictate what one chooses to do with his/her body (as long as its not immoral/illegal) as an employer? ===================. But to single Cam out specifically, esp since hes black, is tainted with the stench of blatant racism. Thread starter dolfan313; S After all, this is a business, would you go to McDonalds if Ronald had 15 piercings all around his mouth and nose? Oh this is NOT gonna get 8 pages of comments about how bad this man is out of his mind Nope lol wow. Tattoos have received a negative connotation in recent years, going as far as the NFL might hire police experts to study players tattoos, according to an article published by CBS . This is a discussion on CujoMatty Madden 20 Generic Tattoo Project within the Madden NFL Football PC forums. is. In saying that Cam is up for it and he will be great, it is just going to take some time. If Mr. Richardson wants to pay me the kind of money hes paying Cam, he can tell me how to walk, how to eat my food and how to kiss my wife. On the other hand Im a little disapointed in Cam. Im not sure why NFL players should be any different. 27 world championships later, maybe they are onto something. I think he has a right to tell the face of his franchise to not look like a disgrace not sure why so many people are taking offense to this. As long as there continue to be other players on his team with tats or piercings, Newton can make a clear-cut case for discrimination if he is disciplined for getting either himself. Virgil Van Dijk Gets A Huge Compliment From Michael Owen. put it in a contract with a lot of zeros attached, otherwise shut up! You can do anything you want. Jerry Richardson has every right to ask that a player not have tats or piercings. And for that I applaud him. I just wanna know why you cant tackle some fool by his hair if hes going to wear it hanging out so far. No. Full disclosure Im a 25 yo white male with a lot of tattoos. Boy, a lot of people who werent there know for sure what was said and to whom it was said. As others have pointed out, the Yankees enforce a dress code for their players. But I believe what Richardson is doing is to save face and not create any unwarranted stereotypes or problems within his organization. ************************************************** I am 34, but todays generation has gone hog wild with this tattoo craze and it needs to stop, or at least slow down. I absolutely HATE looking at those players with tattoos up and down their arms, gold teeth, big diamonds in both of their ear lobes and hair down to their a$$. WebIts inevitable to come across some flashy tattoos in a locker room full of NFL athletes. Then French young sensation Kylian Mbappe refuses to wear any tattoos on his body. That being saiduntil the NFL states itI dont think the individual owners have the right as they are just pieces of the whole organization. If Jerry Richardson is a racist, how come he drafted Newton to be the face of the franchise? For someone like Newton, whom Richardson said has athletic ability unlike anything that I have seen in quite a few years, Richardson presumably wants him to do nothing that would potentially alienate the mainstream paying customers. Nobut players should know what the owners like. Cam wanted the money that comes with being the #1 pick. Newton is going to be the face of the franchise, and this is Richardsons franchise. so if tom brady went out this offseason and got tatted up then got piercings all over his body, the pats wouldnt want him??? Its a business and some of those things do alienate fans which is alienating customers. I dont see what the big deal is. I dont have any tats Im not against it I just havent found something to put on my body forever. Whether he will get it or not is Cams choice. The thing is, as the article mentions, it has to be consistant with the business or in this case the franchise. mnfaninaz says: While Im sure Richardson is an old-school guy who has low regard for any manner of body ornamentation, this isnt so much about Jerry imposing his own personal values on a player; its a matter of maintaining and maximizing Cams image and marketability, particularly as it relates to the corporate sector. I actually dont mind this and agree with the sentiment. Yet, he touts that player/owner title as if he is a players owner. The Yankees have a long standing ban on facial hair and long hair, and thats been working all right for them over the years. Barcelona legend Andreas Iniesta refused to wear tattoos during his footballing career and is one of the few footballers without tattoos. Carolina expects its players to look nice. This mentality is being shoved down all of americas work force as Unions are being forced out. catman72 says: August 24, 2011 at 7:59 am Nothing wrong with JR stating his preferences to kid that hes going to draft and pay to be the face of his franchise. you dont get labor protection for discrimination against tats, piercings, smoking, having kids, being a Nazi or any one of a multitude of personal traits. JR has the right to say he doesnt want a QB with tattoos and piercings. Cam is just a kid and JR was just trying to set the stage for the owner-player relationship. Claiming that our jobs mean nothing & that monkeys could do it. You know NOTHING about any of us.some are firefighters who run into a burning building to save lives & property. The fact is, in todays game, corporate money is where its at. Apparently, Richardson is willing to tolerate those things when it comes to men who wont become the face of the franchise. If teams want shrink the talent pool they pick from then all the power too them. It is a joke people support such dumb rules to be enforced on someone. I dont have any. I said, Do you have any piercings? He said, No, sir. 6 of 19 against the bengals. How many would just harbor a disdain and not address it? The reason could be that he is still too young for tattoos on his body. The candidate and employer were on the same page. No doubt, now that he has moved to play in the Chinese league, If he wants to cut all the players on the panthers with tattoos or piercings than he can tell Cam not to have any. Manchester Uniteds star midfielder, Paul Pogba refuses to wear any tattoos on his body. A winning QB gets the endorsements, so as long as he win games then his endorsements will be there. Thats just the way it is. chrisbntx says: Hair style, personal choices, selection of spouse, where to eat, (god forbid he is seen eating at IHOP instead of Dennys) what to wear, where to go, etc, etc, ad nasuem. They should call this site OldFogeyTalk instead. And I it was a strong request, not a demand. AGAIN. Please explain to me why it would be so crazy for ownership to enforce something like this. Its his show. This isnt a matter of an owner telling a player how to dress and act; its about a businessman maximizing his products marketability. Its a business people. Brazilian international David Luiz also said no to having tattoos on his body. I think Cam is smart enough to realize his marketing potential if his play lives up to the hype. The New York Yankees do the same thing with all of their players. Cam Newton doesn't have any tattoos on his body, and his ears are unpierced. 22 million or needles in my nose and ears? Its fact of life. Also, I doubt paying customers will care about any of that assuming TDs are being put on the board. No long hair, no facial hair, etc, and no one has a problem with that. So, Richardson is right and I would be the same way, if it were my business. Most other teams expect to win. Dwight Howard 6. The league doesnt have to work too hard pitching its product to the fans; they sell themselves on it. Where is Allen Iverson when you need him?. Pogba is I suppose the argument here though is he isolated Cam when others on the Panthers have tatts. Sounds like a real bigot. Hell, even the military is getting picking about where they want their Marines, soldiers, airmen or sailors to get tats. I bet Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Peyton Manning dont have any tattoos or piercings. In any job, you have to understand and be prepared to deal with the bosss personality quirks and pet peeves. Guy lost his mind, your paying him for his play, not to tell him what to wear.& way go Raiders!!! you ppl mean nothing, could find a monkey to do your job. Is a tattoo unprofessional? At least u admitted that ur white cause sadly, it seems catagorizing blacks is what many of u seem to enjoy doing without even thinking At any job the boss has the right to tell his employee what he can and cant do. however, picking and choosing who can and cant have these piercings/tatoos is discrimination and can open up a door to issues, potential discrimination law suits. The players are going to fill that lost in their new collective barging agreement. There is nothing wrong with the owner telling Cam his preferences with tatoos. Not a big deal though, most employers want employees to look professional. freedomispopular says: More people think the owners have the right to tell a guy if he can get tattoos and piercings or not? As usual the folks here are writing an article about nothing to create page hits and controversy. Yeah, because having 60-80 yr old white guys running things has worked out so well lately.we should also commend them for extending their personal believes onto younger generations, because change is bad. We want is not the same as I order or you must. If the Panthers owner feels that a certain outcome will lead to better marketing and sales while also happening to agree with his values then why shouldnt he say he wants that outcome? Though, he usually likes to show off his collection of cars that he has deserved. Its a whole lot easier to sell big business on a nice-looking, clean cut young man like Cam Newton, as opposed to a player like Chris Johnson with all the hair, tattoos, and gold teeth. As it turns out, its standard practice when potentially putting inmates with rival gang ties in the same jail space. The more disturbing reality is that Jerry Richardson likely pushed for Newton based on his responses to this question, rather than picking the guy who has the best chance to succeed. He looked at me with such disgust. At least hopefully Cam will show better judgement than Pryor and avoid getting any tattoos on his throwing arm in the 24 hours leading up to a game, that habit really hurt Pryors consistency. You could go a lot of different ways with a tattoo featuring The Greek Freak as its headline, but the Milwaukee Bucks 2. This is absurd! These players represent their respective teams. People somehow think it is their constitutional right to take a job somewhere and look and do whatever they want because of freewill.incorrect. I know many companies you require that no tatoos or piercings be visible. That being said I have for along time felt that there is a reason you dont see very many successful QBs with tattoos. Id be grouchy too if i was in my 70s. and not that cool old school. Cam was hired. There is a difference in telling players and asking players. This while working in Chicago. Hmmmmm, 3octaveFart says: Its a simple process and then you feel happy because you know you are helping another person. I have no problem with Richardson making a suggestion like that, its his company and hed like it if the face of his franchise was clean cut. But for every Mike Vick their are even more JaMarcus Russells, Vince Youngs, and Terrelle Pryors. French international NGolo Kante remains a humble human being despite his recent successes. He is just one of many muslim footballers without tattoos. Maybe their owner should focus more on the talent of the product on the field instead of what they look like. My dad walked in and I swear I thought he was going to kill me, said Bale. Well, the guy got ticked off and blew the interview. ive had many coworkers that have to rock the long sleeves at work to cover up the tats, and theyre cool with that. This interview took place BEFORE the draft. If you had something worth 500 million dollars, would you be worried what any of the posters on PFT thought? Other dumb black QBs? If my QB is spending any time under the needle for a superficial piece of body art instead of studying film or learning every positions responisibility on every single play than he is mismanaging his responsibilities as a professional and I wouldnt trust him as the leader of my franchise.
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