Cookie Notice Look closer, from week 1-12 the guy has proposed that he will be using 0.5 mg per day of Arimidex. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Generally, the jobs AI algorithms can do are tasks that require human intelligence to complete, such as pattern and speech recognition, image analysis, and On 200 mg a week of test-c you should not need an A.I. Depending on where you live, getting prescribed TRT for insufficient natural Testosterone production is a challenge in itself (many doctors will tell a 21 year old they are fine and healthy even if their blood work indicates their Testosterone is equivalent to the normal of an 80 year old geezer). So, it should be pretty obvious by now that there is a vastly different amount of aromatization occurring at different points of this cycle. Is it necessary to use an AI on 250mg of test per week? Privacy Policy. Cookie Notice I'm really grateful TRT is an option for me. Cycle #2 300mg/wk Primo, 100mg/day Proviron, 300mg/wk Test Prop for 10 weeks. 125mg is sweet spot for most people and don't need AI with that said, you should still verify with bloodwork since everybody is different. It also focuses on lifestyle activities like exercise and nutrition for raising testosterone levels naturally or anything else related to testosterone the substance. WebIm on: 175mg a week of sustanon (25mg ED subq) 250iu HCG M/W/F. I recently got my family doc to bump my test-c dose to 200mg/ week from 150mg/week. This subreddit is for questions and discussion related to testosterone replacement therapy and testosterone. I did experiment with SARMs about 6 months ago, after I got bloodwork done just before I did that and my natural levels were basically more or less identical to what you see above. Even when I'm fatigued, I'm aware of it, but mentally, I can keep going. Week 1-12: Test E 750 mg. Week 1-12: Equipoise 700 mg. Week 1-4: Dbol 40 mg per day. I've experimented with different diets, but none of it's really objectively made much of a difference, other than the keto diet which destroyed my recovery because I did it properly and maintained therapeutic ketosis, which meant restricting protein. Alot of docs dont understand Testosterone. It's much healthier. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Curious on thoughts. IMO its not worth itstay healthy and be glad your Dr. is allowing .8ml farrago November 13, 2013, 6:40pm 12 Archived post. and our For more information, please see our That was the first time I figured out my problems were from testosterone deficiency, and as expected, SARMs massively increased my recovery not just to normal levels but beyond (worthwhile experiment for sure). Your not a pro level figure competitor so most probably need to train normally. WebNew Bloodwork on 200mg/week. Your IP: Not looking looking significant muscle gain, more interested in strength, slight increase in aggression, increase competitiveness, faster recovery, and overall athletic performance. After dedicating over 8 years to extreme self-improvement, I have created "More Plates More Dates" as a one stop shop for helping you to get yourself on the right path to the "best you" possible too. I can run 200mg per week with no AI but if I add HCG then my e2 skyrockets which will cause libido issues. This is the target estrogen sweet spot you want to shoot for to feel amazing and improve your quality of life substantially. BBiceps Well-known member Awards 4 Oct 5, 2021 If you are getting more than 200 mg per week, that is getting into gray area IMO. Spicy/painful nipples and severe water retention first week or two, which quickly went away (I do have leftover gyno from puberty - I was obese during puberty and most of my life). For more information, please see our /r/PEDs is dedicated to information about enhancing performance. This subreddit is for questions and discussion related to testosterone replacement therapy and testosterone. Cookie Notice Most men do well on Insane productivity, like coming out of depression (I wasn't depressed) almost and looking around and realizing all the stuff I've been neglecting to do, then doing it immediately because why not. Heres an example of what Im talking about: Hey guys, newbie to AAS here and wanted to run my cycle by you guys and see if you have any feedback or changes you would make. Most definitely not 1mg of Adex a day that's over kill. 100mgs every 2 weeks will not. WebThrough the data interpretation methods made available by the recent AI tools, researchers and AI companies have focused on the development of models allowing to predict the This subreddit is for questions and discussion related to testosterone replacement therapy and testosterone. So as expected, his libido nose dived, his dick ceased to work properly (no erections), he had insanely dry and achy joints, among a myriad of other horrible side effects. Performance & security by Cloudflare. My fitness score in TrainingPeaks doubled in the past two weeks and I've been pumping out mileage I haven't dreamed of since last season. and our It also focuses on lifestyle activities like exercise and nutrition for raising testosterone levels naturally or anything else related to testosterone the substance. 200mg is kinda high. WebIf you inject 200mg of test a week your natural production will be near 0. Low energy. I agree with CP3 and the gentleman above here, 1 mg a day with 200 mgs Test would presumably crash your E levels. For more information, please see our Thanks for the help. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Privacy Policy. So, basically, if he knows what the point of having Arimidex is in a cycle, you would think hed realize the point of Arimidex is to keep your Estrogen in check. It isnt rocket science, however, many users seem to have completely neglected to comprehend why they are using an AI in the first place, and what purpose it serves. Scan this QR code to download the app now. I feel just right. Does anybody take 200mg of test cyp per week? A few concerns I recently had some blood work done after about 7 weeks of a dosage change from 150mg/week to 200mg/week of test cyp. There are several actions that could trigger this block including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data. Is there anyone who is on 250mg per week and experiences no major side effects, bloat or moon face? Some can bind with SHBG, consequently freeing up more Testosterone to be used in tissues. Thus making your current dose of Testosterone work better. Some can antagonize Estrogen, consequently reducing your need for an AI. This may even give you more wiggle room to increase your Testosterone dose even higher without needing an AI. On 200 mg a week of test-c you should not need an A.I. Most definitely not 1mg of Adex a day that's over kill. /r/PEDs is dedicated to information about enhancing performance. Would I need an AI for a 300mg test cycle? But the strange thing is that as I continued to feel better and my diet and weight's gotten easier and easier to maintain (I'm really not that hungry on average anymore and had decent energy levels until about 8 months ago), I kept feeling worse and worse and my exercise recovery in particular got worse and worse. if your TRT is 125 mg per week for example, and your doctor is giving you 0.5 mg of Arimidex twice per week, and after several weeks utilizing that protocol you get a blood test and your Estrogen levels show that you have a 5.5 pg/ml reading, you are using too much Arimidex, and probably shouldn't even be using Arimidex in the first place as such a little amount of it is crashing your Estrogen and it is too powerful of an AI for your particular needs. I don't feel like death all the time. I would say .5 EOD see how your body reacts and go from there. Just the other day I had a consultation with a guy who told me about how he is on 150 mg of Testosterone per week for his TRT, and his doctor put him on 1 mg of Arimidex every day for his Aromatase Inhibitor. It also focuses on lifestyle activities like exercise and nutrition for raising testosterone levels naturally or anything else related to testosterone the substance. Reply [deleted] Additional comment actions Id want it separate as well. I can certainly bump up the test if I need to but have read that keeping test at 200mg/wk. How can you expect to keep your Estrogen levels in the sweet spot with a predetermined dosage of your Aromatase Inhibitor? I am on my 12th week of Test-Cyp (250mg x2 per week). 200mg I really dont need any anti-e's unless Im reversing some sensitive nipples from a big cycle before. The small gain of faster recovery, more muscle etc. WebPrimo can be run in lower dosages (200mg - 500mg) but really has a fantastic effect when bumped up past 600+ mg a week. Don't know what else to say. If you start to get too far above this level, you can start to experience symptoms of high Estrogen. Now, to the average steroid user, that probably doesnt look like a bad cycle outline and they may even be asking themselves what exactly is wrong with this. I don't know what caused my problems to start to be honest. I do feel really strange to have needed treatment like this at such a young age, but my body's had a hard life I suppose with my history. Total test was around 700. 350mg to 450mg NPP per week should yield some nice results. E.G. Even with the Test E, after his first couple shots, will there be as much test circulating in his system as there will be once the drug has fully saturated in the blood stream 5 weeks later in the cycle? Most normal otherwise healthy men who have low serum levels due to age related decline and exhibit symptoms don't need 200 mg a week. Reply the-lone-squid Additional comment actions I didn't really use an A.I except for the first 2 weeks. Zero health issues whatsoever, knock on wood. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The goal you should have is to keep your Estrogen between 20-30 pg/ml for the entirety of your cycle, regardless of what dosage of AI is necessary to achieve that. I made a post not too long ago about taking an AI only instead of directly pinning myself, where I learned that will cause more harm than good. Id put those low dose cycles against almost anything for a guy looking to get shredded and You can get ripped on 200mg test/week, but it takes time and effort, and you will be a ripped natty guy, not a ripped bodybuilder. If you look at steroid cycles, 500mg test is a 'n00b' cycle, and most people will gain maybe a pound of real LBM a week on that. A heavier cycle might be e.g. 500mg test 300mg tren, which is equivalent to 2g test/week. If I did start to get symptoms of high E2, what AI would you recommend and what dosage? Obviously Im aware its still very early, but libido and ED issues remain and seem to have gotten a bit worse. Along with the testosterone I am taking 500iu HCG 2x week. no ai needed (I only use 12.5mg asin once a week on 500mg test). I haven't felt this good in a long time. After seeing where your Estrogen levels lie, you can decide what dose of AI, and which AI is appropriate to combat those symptoms. Cyp and Enanth. Some guys don't even need an Aromatase Inhibitor at all, which is also something to keep in mind. This subreddit is for questions and discussion related to testosterone replacement therapy and testosterone. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Obviously the best way to confirm where your Estrogen levels lie though is via blood work. Start with a reasonable AI dose, maybe half a mg eod and after a few weeks, maybe a month, get blood work and really understand what's happening inside your body brotha, By ftfaaa in forum Anabolic Steroids and PEDs, By ben01 in forum Anabolic Steroids and PEDs, By karimsins in forum Anabolic Steroids and PEDs, By Actionman in forum Anabolic Steroids and PEDs, Need help knowing whether i should take arimidex with 200mg of test cypionate, Evolutionary.org Steroids Research Forums. If your Estrogen is too low, then you need to slightly lower your AI dose, or switch to a weaker one and start the titration process over again. So, if theres not as much test circulating in his system as it hasnt fully built up yet, there wont be as much Estrogen in his system. 6' 1" male at ~169 If you start to get too far below this level, you can start to experience symptoms of low Estrogen. Normally 100 mgs per week is the starting dose. This coming Saturday will be 3 weeks. Most people dont need that much. If you need an ai at 200, maybe that's a lil high for your body. Gotta get bloods done to be sure. Im good with 300mg/wk test e with 25mg proviron ed. Depends on YOUR physiology but you might not need AI at 200. 160mg a week puts me right at the top of range and no ai (e also high but in range). I'm injecting EoD into my delts using Sustanon (Please don't tell me to use another ester like test-e, as this is the only one I can access and have a prescription for, and this won't cause an issue with my doctor). Week 14-16: Nolvadex 40 mg per day. For some 120 mg per week puts some people at 1500. For the most part, its been great. In the case of this cycle, there are 2 heavily aromatizing compounds in there for the first 4 weeks (Test E and Dbol). I had no symptoms of high Estrogen at all. Scan this QR code to download the app now. If you don't need an AI though and your body is extremely efficient at balancing androgens relative to estrogens, then by all means, push the Testosterone Ive done all my research, but I want to get rid of my last bit of uncertainty before actually starting. My luteinizing hormone in my pre-TRT bloodwork was 5.2 mIU/mL (ref range 1.7-8.6), seems to have been an issue with the testes. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. 200 mg per week for me puts me in the 800s. Original bloodwork collected 08-Jul-2020. If I kept my AI dosage constant like that during a cycle (by cycle I mean a blast phase of a supraphysiological amount of highly aromatizing hormones), my experience would more than likely start out with me feeling symptoms of low estrogen, followed by symptoms of high estrogen later in the cycle once my level of aromatization had surpassed the inhibitory capacity of that particular dosage of AI. Either drop the HCG or lower your test dose. TRT is a game changer - 100 mg/wk Test-C - Pre and Post Bloodwork, Scan this QR code to download the app now. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Assuming your T levels have the normal range like Lab Corp uses, then your total T and free T are too high. First was 500 mg test cyp per week and 50 mg Anavar per week. As you titrate up your dose, monitor your side effects and add in the AI if needed. Scan this QR code to download the app now. No AI was needed what so ever. We won't share your information with anyone. Thanks!! Anyway I've learned a lot from reading here on Reddit and figured I'd share this as a way of saying thanks and maybe helping someone else. After the anastrozole, symptoms have calmed down and I hold way less water on my frame too. Blood work was ordered due to emotions, bloating, and nipple tenderness. The action you just performed triggered the security solution. My natural test levels are about 700 ng/dl, for anyone thats wondering. This is what made the Mast effect on my lipid panel so pronounced. Agreed^^^When I just TRT of 200mg of test c a week, I need an AI. When I initially started TRT: Immediate mental benefits. If you dont need it, it will crash your e2 and youll feel like crap. For more information, please see our This subreddit is for questions and discussion related to testosterone replacement therapy and testosterone. My E2 on 150mg/week usually hovered around 30-40. My plan was to come off right about now and use the Torem I bought for [deleted] 2 yr. ago You may, or you may not. If you have any of the traditional symptoms of high estrogen or low estrogen, you should first and foremost get blood work with a sensitive assay test to see where your estrogen levels lie. Keep in mind, Arimistane is the only over the counter Aromatase Inhibitor on that list, the other three are Rx AI's, and can only be obtained via a prescription from your doctor and should only be used under the direction of your doctor. The goal you should have is to keep your Estrogen between 20-30 pg/ml for the entirety of your cycle, regardless of what dosage of AI is necessary to achieve that. Or 100 mg split 50mg twice a week. while having a potential 2 week ester, are more effective when administered more often. you can conclude that your dosage of AI is satisfactory for the time being. Check bloods on cruise pretty regularly Nac Well-known member Awards 3 Oct 5, 2021 #11 BBiceps said: In 1 or 2 shots? Long story short, you cant, unless you have been using the exact same compound for a very long period of time and have definitively concluded via blood work what dosage of that particular compound equates to a particular level of Estrogen aromatization in the body. TRT started 06-Aug-2020. You shouldnt need any AI on 200 a week, but you need bloodwork to know for sure. 200 mgs per week is too high to start out with on TRT. Arimidex is only approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Either drop the HCG or lower your test dose. probably aromatase due to inactivity, diet, excessive Is it necessary? 250mg test e per week is a high cruise or mini blast but you shouldnt need an ai unless you aromatase tons. Recent bloodwork collected 09-Sep-2020. WebCurrent dosing 0.25 mL of 200 mg/mL testosterone cypionate E3.5D (100 mg/week) intramuscular, vastus lateralis, using a 29 gauge insulin syringe. This is far less likely to happen with the weaker AIs like Arimistane and Aromasin, but it is very common with Arimidex and Letrozole. Best. For me personally, 75mg twice weekly yielded a tT of 650 and E2 (sensitive) of 25. I've been on both 125mg and 150mg dosage to experiment with. I've been prescribed this through an endocrinologist and not one of these TRT clinics that seem to be popular, so I only pay $30 a month for the medication, plus $10-20 here and there for bloodwork and doctor's visits. Scan this QR code to download the app now. Common symptoms of high estrogen include: These are all quite unpleasant side effects, and it isnt uncommon to experience several of them at once if your estrogen levels remain too high or low. If so how do you feel on it? I wouldn't need that much of an Aromatase Inhibitor even if I was on 5x as much Testosterone as he is on per week. I have days where I feel like an absolute king and then I have days where I feel worse than when I started trt. Libido: From a 0/10 to a 5/10. My doctor prescribed me 200mg of test and 1mg of anastrozole , split every 3.5 days. Ur better off doing it more often to keep a steady blood plasma level. WebFirst cycle should be test only. If this is your first visit, please REGISTER. However, if you understand how these drugs work in the first place, you will understand there is a compounding effect with everything, and they take several weeks to fully saturate in your system. Based on the current blood work that I'm on for 150mg of TRT, if the results were doubled for 300mg, do you think my blood results could indicate a need for an AI? So, the key to staying in the sweet spot is getting your blood work done, and adjusting your AI dose accordingly based upon your current Aromatase Inhibitor needs.
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